Sunday, March 21, 2010

Social Class..Can't be Avoided

"Class: A Guide through the American Status System" is about the many different levels of class in the American society. The book is about what really makes up class characteristics. This book was very amusing; I had a hard time reading it because it seemed to frustrate me mostly. Paul Fussell talks about how class is exposed everyday by what we do, say, and own. He thoroughly describes the customs and symbols of the American class system through nine classes in which you can clearly identify which one you belong too. In his description of the nine social classes the one that I found most interesting was the "Top out of Sight" class. These are the Billionaires and Millionaires who are so wealthy they can have enough money to buy their own privacy. We never see them because they seclude themselves from the world. They live in the houses where you can't see from the streets. I would never want to be apart of this class system, because these specific people don't want to be apart of the outside world. There are so few of them in that specific class system that they do not fit in with the inner society, and the inner society doesn't accept them because they feel like there better than everyone, wouldn't have anything in common with the people, and have different values and morals.

He argues that class has nothing to do with money and is more about how one is raised and how one perceives them self. In his book, Fussell states how each social class portrays themselves even though economically there are only two classes, the rich and the poor. He says that people of lower social class tend to believe that class is defined by the amount of money you have. The middle class believe that money has something to do with it, but they believe that education and the type of job you have is equally important as well. Then there is the upper class, who believe that the necessary criteria for such social class is the taste they perceive, their values, the clothes they wear, and the behavior in which they act. To the upper class, the amount of money they are making and the education they received isn’t as important as the necessary criteria the author stated. I think that when it comes to defining what social class you belong too, that it can't just be about how much money you have, because no one knows for certain how much money you make, and that’s personal. It is very difficult to escape, culturally from the class into which you were born. It's hard to be someone your not, and to act "rich" just to fit in.
Fussell compares the life of two different families and the two different families are completely different, but are making the exact same income. The income they are making is equivalent to that of a garage mechanic. The difference between the families is that one family lives their life like an upper middle class family. There living room is full of bookshelves; they drink fancy drinks daily and shop in the city, but the only reason they are living their life like this is because they want to be seen as rich. It was so important for that family to come off as wealthier than they really are, because they want everyone to view them as "rich" rather than just "average". It proves that families with the same income can have nothing in common and live life completely different. Just as the example that I just stated, Fussell discusses living within a certain social class because of preference.
It makes you wonder why people choose to live their life as if they are rich. The part that frustrated me the most was when he described the difference between social classes by the way they sit and stand. "Upper -middle class tend to have controlled precise movements. The way they use their arms and where their feet fall is dramatically different from lower-middle class people, who tend to swing their arms out rather than hold them closer to their bodies". Are we stereotyping someone because of the way they sit and move their arms? Does that mean if you don't have controlled arm movements you're not living in an upper-middle class society? Fussell goes into great depth about the social class system in the American society. He goes into great detail about the middle class and provides examples about the differences between the middle class compared to the upper class. I never realized how our society operates and interconnects with each other.

10 comments:

  1. Throughout this book I defiantly shared your frustrations. I do not know why people would want to "act" rich. I feel like in a sense it would be stressful to always have to be and act like someone or something you really are not. I guess people just do this for their own self-esteem, but I feel like these people have to be insecure with who they are. If that is their preference then so be it, but it just seems like to much work for me. From this perspective I do agree with the author that money has nothing to do with class for those people that act like that, but for the rest of society I don't.

    I wonder the same thing as you when it comes to stereotyping someone because the way they sit or move their arms... that just seems crazy. I do not think I would be able to say what social class someone is in by the way they sit or stand, unless they were extremely wealthy and proper. Although that can be argued as well because their are probably many people that are raise to sit and stand a certain way no matter what class they are in. I think that has to do more with your upbringing and how you are raised. Either way that topic is extremely frustrating probably for many people because we all view it differently.

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  2. We see people act like this all the time, trying to appear to be living above their income. This is, in part, why our nation is in the debt situation that we are. It reminds me of a British sit-com called "Keeping up Appearances" that my mom used to watch all the time. It's about a woman who tries to look like she's upper class. It is quite funny.

    Everybody falls into wanting to be at a level they're not but it's important to focus on making wise decisions. The family that Fossel discussed that lived within their means will be in a higher class, financially, in the long run.

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  3. When Fussell said that class didn't depend on the amount of money you make, and went on to defend his argument with the ideas you presented in your second paragraph, I got a bit annoyed. If class is a lifestyle, that's fine. But you can't live the lifestyle of an upper-class person on a lower-class income. It all comes back to money.
    Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but isn't this a sort of referendum on the American ideal of self-determination? Aren't we supposed to be rugged individuals like Thoreau and Emerson wanted us to be? Isn't part of being American being free from a culture to which we must conform? It seems like we keep coming back to the idea that, as Dr. B said in a comment on an earlier post, there are two qualifications for class, one centering on income and assets, and the other the lifestyle we lead -- etiquette, education, etc. I'll be honest, I really have a lot of trouble wrapping my mind around this concept. It's easy enough to understand on a basic level - rich people eat caviar while sitting up straight in an ornate wooden chair around a big table in their mansion, poor people slouch around the kitchen table on the linoleum floor of their rented house's kitchen eating Ramen and peanut-butter sandwiches. I get that part. What I don't get is why we allow this idea to exist and to pervade.
    If I won the lottery tomorrow, I would do everything that I could to create a comfortable lifestyle for me, my family and my friends. If I won enough, I would tell that they never had to work again, and hand them $1,000,000 apiece with access to whatever I had left. My life would obviously change, but I would do whatever I had to do to make sure that I kept those that I love around me, and didn't lose the friendships I worked extremely hard to cultivate. Maybe this is youthful naivety, but if a friend or family member abandons you because they've started making $500,000 a year while you continue to pull down $25,000, then they were never really good friends to begin with.
    If there's anything in this world we should be able to count on, anything that can consistently bring us joy without destroying our physical selves (I'm talking about drugs, here) it's our friends and family. Everything else is too tenuous.

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  4. i say we say screw it with all that material crap and go Ghandi. we'll fast for a year and live on nothing but the drops of morning dew. then protest outside those out of sight rich folk and make them join our cause and bring them into our world!

    ok enough with the bull. i think you can try to act like a "class" above your current standings as long as your current income can spare for a few weekend splurges. i'm a "middle-class" person i suppose, but i like to go to classical concerts and try to expand myself "culturally." i suppose you could call classical music a cultural enjoyment, but probably more preferably an artistic expanse. though when i think about people going to classical/symphonic concerts i picture people of higher class going to them. when i get out on my own i'd like to have little parties occasionally, game parties or social gatherings, and if i remember correctly i think it was in the People Like Us video there was a mention that someone who throws numerous parties are considered higher class. since they have the money to spend on varies gatherings. if you don't go too overboard on trying to work out that kind of life style then it's not that bad of a situation, but if you constantly try to over do it, and in a way rub the party or over flaunt concert tickets and what not, it could get a bit offensive to others.

    this is kind of mean, but you could say that they higher class makes precise movements when they walk/sit and what not because they're uptight about their appearance, and just snotty about anyone that's "lower" then them. but that's all "proper etiquette". i hate the term of "proper etiquette." who came up with that, these are a set of rules that you have to follow because someone else said they where they way to act and how to do things. if you deviate from these actions, you're being rude... ugh, What The Hell...i went to a dinner theatre when i did my study abroad in Salzburg. our whole group went and we got there like 3 hours early for some ungodly reason. so while we waited for everything to start, i decided to play some cards. i asked a few people if they wanted to play, but no one wanted to because it wasn't "proper" in that setting. i end up playing solitaire for about 2 hours, and after awhile i had people arguing with me saying i needed to put up the cards because it was disrespectful. it eventually got to where the teachers were almost yelling at me to put the cards away and me almost telling them to F off.
    so in the end, what was supposed to be a fun night of music ended up turning out to be a horribly annoying experience for about a quarter of our group.

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  5. The truth is any family could make themselves look like some class they are not. There are many ways a person can influence a way a person views them or their family just by what they see. The truth is they are living in a lie and I'm sure one day someone will figure it out.
    I guess I never thought about a person’s social class by the way they sit and stand. I would like to know why really looks at people and judges them by the way they walk? In chapter five, Fussell talks about each class and what types of alcohol a certain class may drink, what time each class eats dinner, and the difference in sports interests each class has. These topics never crossed my mind as a way to divide us into classes.

    Did any of you see the exercises in the back of the book? He includes this “Living room scale“ where you start with100 points and you subtract or add points depending on what you have in your living room. I did it and it ranked me as upper class when I consider myself middle class. I hope people don’t use this in real life to know what class they are in.

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  6. I agree with the fact that class isn't all about money. You can have class without making tons of cash. But how realistic is it to assume that you can act your way up the social ladder? I still believe that money is the largest factor in this equation. I know that the "new rich" have money but are not always socially accepted, but how likely is it for a person to "move up" in class without having the money to support their move up the status ladder?

    I understand that different classes eat dinner at certain times and drink certain alcoholic beverages, but my question is would the upper class or lower class still do these things if they made much less or much more money?

    I also found Fussell to be rather irritating and his writing seemed to be a bit stuffy and boring to me. I saw mentioned in one of the earlier comments the "Living Room Scale." I agree with Amanda, I hope that people don't really complete this scale and automatically assume that they've discovered what class they truly belong to.

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  7. You know this same argument was brought up in the film we watched last week. Does money bring class or is class a state of mind? I think that Fussell does a good job supporting the ideal that in some cases class is a state of mind. The example that he uses really shows how it is possible for two families to gross the same annual income but socially be a part of separate classes. I feel that in some instances Fussell’s argument is right, people live within certain social class due to preference. I also think that, one’s morals, level of integrity, education and cultural diversity all affect which class an individual chooses to associate and live amongst. Even though my income would label me as lower-class, I surely don’t consider myself of the lower class because I’m educated, and I have morals and good values, my parents expect great things from me. I don’t know, I just think that perception plays a lot into the “class thing”. I guess the question would be are there sub-class within classes?

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  8. I apologize in advance for the length, but this book really made my wheels turn!

    When you brought up the example that Fussell used in the book about comparing the lives of two different families and how completely different they are all while making the exact same income it really got me thinking. While reading this book I was continuously comparing the things he was saying to my life. I can not tell you how many times I have witnessed firsthand situations like Fussell’s comparison of the two families. When Alex threw his two cents in on Katie’s blog and said, “I do not know why people would want to "act" rich. I feel like in a sense it would be stressful to always have to be and act like someone or something you really are not. I guess people just do this for their own self-esteem, but I feel like these people have to be insecure with who they are,” made me re-think all of the things that had been going through my mind while I was reading this book.

    I mentioned this is my post after the last blog we did, but I never realized how many times a day I look at people and subconsciously judge them. Not necessarily in a bad way and I know by reading my comments most of you think I’m a horrible person, but it is just something I naturally do. Not until watching the video last week and reading Fussell’s book did I ever throw social class into the mix. I now catch myself looking at others and thinking about what social class they might belong to. I am not doing this necessarily to be judgmental because I feel that I am better than they are, but because of this class and the things it has opened my eyes to.

    Back to that part in the book, I was born and raised into a family who was not only money wealthy but very well known socially in town. My grandparents on my mother’s side were wealthy and seemed to be the who’s who among all of the local social gatherings. My mother fell in love with her childhood sweetheart who happened to be of a lower social class than she. I continuously hear of how her parents were not accepting of their marriage because they didn’t feel that he was going to be able to provide well enough for her.

    They married and bought the house my mother had grown up in. My sister and I were born and lived the upper-upper-middle class lifestyle. After the money started to run out (which I will use this term lightly) and a few unavoidable financial situations arose, we were forced to move into a smaller house. Being in high school, I felt like this meant we were “poor” and I was ashamed of our new house. For the most part we continued to live the same life we had. Our friends and lifestyles didn’t change, only the size of our house. However, things continued to get worse and a few years later we were forced to downsize once again and start renting a home.
    We come from very wealthy town, so I feel like our obligation to maintain our status wasn’t an option. Those close to us knew of our situation and understood our problems. My sister and I never lost friends over it, but I watched my parents drift apart from those friends that they used to spend every weekend with at social gatherings. It is so sad to see a friend be lost due to the fact someone doesn’t maintain the “social status” standards that some people hold in their heads. I feel that part of this happened because my parents no longer had the money available to live the lifestyle of luxuries they once had the dining out and traveling with their friends. I do know, money as a factor or not, the less you hang out with and see someone the harder and harder it is to maintain a relationship an keep in touch.

    continued in next post...

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  9. Although our material things didn’t stay the same, I can tell you that my family became closer and stronger than ever. After living a life through some of the 9 social classes that Fussell discusses, I feel like I have a better understanding for the way the individuals in each work. I do not want to be “rich” because I have seen what it can do to people and the way it affects their families. Ideally I would like to have and make enough money to support my family and children and just that. Not spoil them with things that will make them feel like they are better than anyone else, but the more I watch and read about social classes in America the more I start to question if that will even be possible.

    I completely agree with Nakesha's post. I also think that, one’s morals, level of integrity, education and cultural diversity all affect which class an individual chooses to associate and live amongst. I recently moved out into a condo with my sister and my income would label me as lower-lower-class, I surely don’t consider myself of the lower class because I’m educated, and I have morals and good values, my parents expect great things from me. With that being said, I feel like the way you were raised has a greater impact in the social class you "belong" to. Eric brought up the idea of winning the lottery. I totally agree with how he would disburse the money because I would do the same. HAHAHAHA we say that now, but how many horror stories have you heard about middle class people winning the lottery and ruining their lives. I think that money is the root of all evil when it comes to the stereotypes of social class in America!

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  10. What an awesome conversation: some really great stuff here (definitely not a phrase the "top out-of-sight" would use, no?).

    First, I appreciate Katie's post for attempting to summarize Fussell's project and direct us to the text first, instead of to our own thoughts. Let's make sure not to venture too far away from the text at hand, at least initially.

    I will address "stereotyping" in the discussion board, but I found myself in the same mindset as Lindsey while watching a game show (does that reveal my social class?!). I was placing the contestants in Fussell's nine classes based on their attire, mannerisms, and speech. Nakesha brings up a great point about sub-classes, and I found Fussell's categorization useful precisely for how many class distinctions he includes. In a way, his list already includes sub-classes. As he points out, you can divide the classes in much simpler ways:

    1. Two classes: capitalists (those who own the means of production) and proletariats (those who own nothing but their labor power, which they must sell for a wage)
    2. Three classes: capitalist class, middle/professional class (wage workers with some assets and "political" power), working-class (what was once called proletariat)
    3. Five classes: On page 27, Fussell includes this list and correctly identifies it as a preference of sociologists.

    I will talk about the "stereotype" of college students attending NKU in the discussion board...

    Keep up the good work everybody!

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